This blog post pretty much wrote itself after I read the following Tumblr post from Golden Zephr (read it HERE):
No, I’m not a dancer
But, nevertheless I challenge all of you to REALLY look at the styles and forms that you are lauding here on the internet. No, not everyone uses the word gypsy. No, not everyone uses ‘afro’ or other fusion. Not everyone is guilty of the same degree of appropriation.
But, as far as I am concerned as a Roma woman (a gypsy) and as someone who has encountered, in person, many groups who call themselves “tribal” or “gypsy” it really annoys me.
I do think that the word ‘tribal’ is a problem, especially when paired with words like gypsies. We don’t live in tribes, nor do we have a tribal system (* yes we have something like a clan system in the way our families are organized, but you cannot go as far as to call it “tribal”). Yet, people ask me “which gypsy tribe” I’m from, if I can do the “gypsy tribal dance” or what I think of “gypsy fusion”.
I don’t know how you as dancers can claim that this kind of thing doesn’t exist and claim that simply because you don’t use the word personally, that frees you of all obligation. You say you never “see it” when you search the internet, but I see it every time I look for a dance from my people.
You do a form of dance who’s history is rooted in the “gypsy” people’s of North Africa and the Middle East—primarily the Ouled Nail and the Ghawazee, as well as others. I know many of you claim that ATS is new simply because it’s a fusion of styles—however, all of these styles were appropriated from somewhere.
Now, before you argue with me I am not saying not to use those styles of dance. That would be a little … presumptuous of me. However, I do think it’s problematic when there are many groups—starting with the biggest Ultra Gypsy and Romani—who actively promote their dancing as something it is not. Those two groups are either no longer together or have renamed themselves. However, there are other large groups such as “Urban Gypsy” in Texas, “Gypsy Fire” in Oregon (who actively label their clothing as gypsy and/or Romani), “Anaya Gypsy Dance” from my current city in Ohio, “Gypsy Caravan” from Oregon, who even do “Gypsy Caravan certified Gypsy Tribal teaching certificate… but the list goes on and on…
Gypsy Heart
Urban Gypsy
American Gypsy
Twisted Gypsy
Ultra Gypsy
Gypsy Rain
Free Spirit Gypsy
Barefoot Gypsy
Gypsy Dream ATS clothing
Tanjora Gypsy
New World Gypsy…Gosh, will the list ever end?
This is not something I am making up, it’s a really big problem and you all can go on denying it if you choose. But, I refuse to. I am tired of people telling me it’s no big deal, or I need to not be so serious or sensitive, or that because it’s a fusion it’s not appropriation.
Really? Ugh.
There are so many things to address from this short post by the writer that I barely know where to start.
Like some clichéd high school essay, I will start with defining a word, what it means to me and what it means to the rest of the world and then I’ll go from there.
The word ‘gypsy’ originates from the Greek word for Egyptian, as people believed that those groups originated in Egypt. The term ‘gypsy’ is considered to be derogatory by members of the Roma community.
In North America, the word gypsy is commonly used as a reference to lifestyle or fashion and NOT to the Romani ethnicity.
(Source: Wikipedia)
Now, this is how I, as a young child, saw gypsies:
This, is how I believe most people see gypsies:

And JUST the other day, I Google Image searched for “gypsy skirts” and this came up (this is gorgeous, btw):
I think that this is a case of people holding onto old feelings, because the people I speak to and converse with do not see gypsies in a bad light. My intention with using the term ‘gypsy’ is to encompass an entire community and culture of people that I might be referencing OR to describe a Westernized fashion or lifestyle choice. I don’t intend to use it in a derogatory manner, and if I were to use the term gypsy and somebody accosted me for that, I would be very upset. Mainly because my intentions are not to be derogatory or rude, but just to describe something in a wide radius that I can’t think to describe in any other way. If I were accosted or accused for using the term gypsy, it would seem to me that it is a case of putting an insecurity and old feelings onto me. It’s almost like you’re making the word bad just by attacking somebody for it. Like a child that is drawing something that looks like male genitalia – if you make a big fuss about it, it gets a negative connotation. There’s no reason to correct the child because they don’t know that it’s not an ok thing to draw willy-nilly (heh) all over the place. Obviously, you don’t encourage it, and maybe distract them with something shiny. But the bigger you make the issue, the easier it is for people to see the negative.
If that makes any sense?
As this is my blog, it’s not a perfectly written, ready to be published article, but just a mish-mash of my thoughts on digital paper.
I do think that the word ‘tribal’ is a problem, especially when paired with words like gypsies. We don’t live in tribes, nor do we have a tribal system (* yes we have something like a clan system in the way our families are organized, but you cannot go as far as to call it “tribal”). Yet, people ask me “which gypsy tribe” I’m from, if I can do the “gypsy tribal dance” or what I think of “gypsy fusion”.
I can understand the frustration of the writer when she says that gypsies are not in tribes and that the word association bothers her. I think that’s pretty fair and is just a rant in the style of Peter Griffin’s That Really Grinds My Gears.
Now, we’re getting down to the dance part of all of this, and I can only speak for myself and not the numerous troupes that were mentioned in the original post. Firstly, this writer says upfront that she is not a dancer. Therefore I don’t expect her to understand ATS or Tribal Fusion Belly dance. So I thought it was quite unfair for her to comment on what ATS is, or isn’t. (When I say ‘ATS’, I’m talking about the FCBD Carolena Nericcio style)
She is right in saying that ATS is not purely a new type of dance, because it draws from other cultures and places, and if it weren’t for those things, ATS would be very different. The way that the writer is ‘speaking’, you’d think that this was a negative thing – drawing from other cultures and places to create something new and different. I don’t see that as a negative thing. I see that as a way of life in dance. If we weren’t to challenge ourselves and change how we see things and do things, we’d all still be here:

Her attacking or criticizing ATS is completely unfounded as ATS does not claim to be affiliated with the term ‘gypsy’ in any way. Yet, something about the word ‘gypsy’ and ‘belly dance’ rings a bell in my head. And the entire time I’ve been thinking about this blog post and trying to sort the ideas out in my head, I realized that I had read the two terms together somewhere before.
When I was in high school (all those millions of years ago) I wrote an article for the school newspaper about belly dance. I had just started dancing, so my knowledge was shaky at best, but looking back now I didn’t say anything too scandalous. I had read that a common thread of thought by belly dancers and historians was that belly dance came to be because of the Gypsies. They had carried the dance throughout the world in their travels and had drawn on the places they visited for their own style of dance. They then, in turn, inspired the places that they visited and so took what we call ‘belly dance’ all over the place. On that note, something that I had always believed about gypsies/travelers was that they were inspired by the places they visited and they acted as pollen spores – bringing their ideas and cultures and traditions all over the place.
There was also this, from another Tumblr blogger (ilove-bellydance) about the same post:
It’s always good to read a different perspective in whatever you are passionate about so I’m reblogging this here. I have always wanted to learn ATS but I know now it’s problematic roots. Truth be told, ATS and Tribal Fusion seemed to be appropriative to me with regards to the costuming and make up. I wouldn’t feel comfortable wearing jewelry from Afghanistan or places in North Africa or styling myself in the Indian fashion (complete with bindi and other facial markings). It’s just…not mine to wear.
I need to do more thinking about this. Any advice is welcome. -Corinne
This irritated me quite a bit, because this blogger describes ATS as having ‘problematic roots’ and she didn’t want to learn ATS because of that. She also says that she doesn’t feel comfortable borrowing from other cultures. I can respect that, few people would see it that way, and I commend her for that thought. What irritates me about it is that it seems like a somewhat ignorant statement. Belly dance (all forms and variations) are in the end performed as theatrical arts. This gives them some kind of creative license to take what they will from other forms of art & dance. Wearing African jewellery is a COSTUME, not a cultural statement. A culture does not belong to one person – I can wear a sari if I so chose to. I don’t wear a sari in my day to day life because it’s not appropriate to my day to day life. However, if I choose to wear it to a performance as a costume, I don’t see why I can’t do that. Half of the time, the costuming is worn in a way that is not traditional. Ie. A sari as a skirt or cut into a headband.
I just laugh at the purists who wear bedlahs and dance Egyptian style belly dance and then moan about how Tribal Fusion has sullied what belly dance is all about. I laugh because the bedlah is a WESTERN invention, a Hollywood corruption of what used to be a folkloric dance form performed for women only.
Instead, you’ll find these ‘purists’ dancing in a bedlah at a restaurant for men & women to music that was influenced by Turkey.
Back to the original article – I can understand the frustration of the writer. But as I said in the definition, what is NOW known as ‘gypsy’ in Western society, is a lifestyle and fashion thing. It is not indicative of the Romani or Gypsy culture in any way. And if it were, it was probably based on some Hollywood/Disney version of it and wasn’t intended to be affiliated with the Romani or Gypsy name.
It also bugs me that the writer of the original post is attacking dance, but seems to be ignoring all the other pop culture references to gypsies that are more questionable with their motives.
There’s so much to still say on this topic, but I’m fast reaching 1500 words, and I’m not even sure any of you are still reading. So I’ll leave you with this photo which I think describes ATS perfectly, and how it respectfully has borrowed from other cultures and dance forms to create something essentially NEW. It is (if I’m not mistaken) the only form of dance that is performed as a group improv on stage. Therefore it is a dance form all on its own. I think there is a whole other blog post about what ATS is and isn’t, and where the word ‘Tribal’ fits in with it. That, is for another day.

Please note that this is a rambling post on my thoughts, and before you attack me, present your thoughts in the comments and/or in an email and I will respond. I may very well agree with you, but just can’t think of the words to use right now.



























